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So it seems that Peter Mandelson, a gentleman whose credentials I'm not entirely sure of half the time, wants to amend copyright law. Basically, he seems to want to make it possible for the 'any person as may be specified' to be able to punish perceived copyright infringers, or 'pirates'. There's a lot of really weirdness going on with this, particularly the bit where it seems that Mandelson didn't even seem to care about copyright infringement until he spent a weekend on David Geffen's yacht or something. But to be honest, it all sounds horrifying.

Currently, the 'three strikes and you're off the internet' rule is totally unworkable on grounds of privacy and accountability. ISPs are not being held accountable for what passes over their network, because to be held accountable, they'd have to monitor everything that ever gets downloaded or shared, not to mention how that information was downloaded or shared. Was it paid for? Who posted it in the first place? Where did they get it from? What exactly is in that file, anyway? You'd need to know all that to know for sure that it was an illegal download, but to have all that information is a blatant invasion of privacy. Plus it would cost ISPs millions that they can't really afford. So nobody's worried. Except they should be. Because if this 'any person as may be specified' thing takes off, the people who want the monopoly are not only going to put their billions to work to ensure they keep making those billions, but they're going to have to go about the business of locating illegal filesharing as if with a shotgun, punishing innocent people in the process. What happens when people start using free WiFi at coffee shops in concert with flash cards? Will they sue until free wi-fi is no longer available? They theoretically could. 'Fair use' looks like it might go out the window at this point.

I can see where the fear comes from, to be honest. There's Rupert Murdoch trying to remove stories from Google's search index to encourage people to pay for online content. There's a whole hoopla in the comments about how this will kill off Murdoch's media empire, and a few others who are pointing out that unless there's a subscription charge, media as we know it will more or less tank because advertising revenue isn't what it used to be. The thing is, I can sort of see the point. A quality website needs to be created, maintained and redesigned every now and again. Reporters need to be paid. Advertising revenue is being spread pretty thinly right now, with so many different advertising avenues to exploit, and so no one is getting as much of it as they need to keep going. That's the major issue about a world that's changing as fast as ours is, at least in terms of getting information and entertainment out to the public. You used to have to buy a newspaper or catch the news, in which latter case there were TV ads or licence fees to pay for the content. Now there's any number of places on the internet to which advertising revenue can go, and so people aren't buying so many slots for so long in any one given spot. So what's to do?

The only thing I can think of is eliminating hard copy newspapers entirely. Let's face it - something has to go. That being the case, and given that I don't think that there are a lot of people in the UK without at least access to a computer and an internet connection via their local library, why can't the thing that goes be the wasteful, cumbersome, resource-intensive crumply stuff? Online news updates faster, just for a start, and if someone really wants to read it while on the tube? Make a text-only version and read it via your iPod's Notes section ... or even print a copy. If there were no more actual hard copy newspapers, not only would there be fewer cost implications in terms of paper, ink, printing etc, but there'd be more advertising revenue to spread around online, so there'd be more coming into each individual online publication. That would still allow for free distribution of news and paying the reporters and editors and people.

There's the problem, of course, of the loss of jobs involved in shutting down the physical presses, but that needn't be as much of an issue as it sounds. No physical newspaper means more traffic on the sites. More traffic on the sites means more hands needed to keep everything running. Establish a training programme for the people solely involved in the meatspace end, get them up to speed with what it takes to run an online publication. They don't all need to get the sack; they just need to get new skills and apply them to the job at hand.

Of course, it might help if the owners of these media and news conglomerates weren't pulling in six-figure salaries and massive end-of-year bonuses, too. That'd really help. It's not enough to make a comfortable living for these people; they have to have the yacht and the mansion and the OMFG how can you justify that kind of excess now? What the people who keep talking about how news media is doomed unless the 'common people' pump money into it don't seem to get is that most of the money the 'common people' and the advertisers are already pumping in is not going to keeping the publication going. Most of it is going to a few very greedy people who already have more money than they could spend in six lifetimes if they were being remotely sensible. If owners of these media conglomerates were content to cut their profits a little, even just from 'obscene' to 'huge', then perhaps the advertising revenue that's already coming into play would be enough. But no; apparently they have got used to their economic obscenity and they can't imagine not having it. How the hell are they needing that much money anyway? What are they spending it on?

I think I had to have this rant in order to work out both sides of this argument in my head. I know that it takes money to make these things run, but it doesn't take as much money as yahoos like Murdoch are making to make a family run unless comfort is being taken to extreme degrees. And yes, I am taking into account the need for living and security arrangements that allow a major public figure some measure of privacy.

Bottom line: the world is changing, and has been for quite some time. It'll keep changing, and people had really better keep up. If I actually cared, I'd apologise to the Old Guard, but frankly, they're going to need to change their expectations rather a lot if they want to even keep making a reasonable profit on news and entertainment media ventures.

I need to find out if it's the same in book publishing as it is for people like Murdoch, really. I don't like the idea that most of the profit from any creative venture of mine ends up going to someone who has more money than anyone reasonably knows what to do with and, more to the point, is trying to screw over the audience in a bid to make more.

Date: 2009-11-19 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrell.livejournal.com
We'll see worse yet. The music and print industries will do absolutely anything to hold onto the past, and they've got the money. What is guaranteed is that you can't enforce copyright online - people will always pirate quicker than the industries can keep up, because we want free speech and free access. But it'll get bloody before the money starts running out and they accept the inevitable.

As for the excesses of media conglomerates, that would be capitalism. "How the hell are they needing that much money anyway?" They don't, it's capitalism. They'll take as much as they can because they'll be rewarded for it with praise and political power.

As for Murdoch complaining about online copyright, that's a bit rich.

Date: 2009-11-19 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thessalian.livejournal.com
See, this is the kind of thing that's really starting to put me off the idea of going hunting for agents and contracts at major publishing houses. I don't know if it works the same way for books as it does for music and news, but some of the things I have seen make me think that it's probably at least as bad. Little, Brown publishing Breaking Dawn without so much as an editorial look-over because Meyer whinged about how the editors were "interfering with her voice and her vision" and they didn't want to upset their cash cow so they let the first print run go out unedited, for example. I'm aware that indie publishing has a long way to go but frankly, I'd rather go print-on-demand and risk forego the hope of an advance than have these money-grubbing tits with more interest in capitalism than quality make any of their money off of me. And there are systems in place to allow me to do at least something without the big publishers - yay podcast-and-PoD business model. It'd be nice if more people felt that way - it'd give the media conglomerates a wake-up call.

Date: 2009-11-19 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrell.livejournal.com
CDs and DVDs are probably dead media already. I don't think it'll be the same for books, but that's a personal hunch: Kindle hasn't taken off THAT much, and people aren't rushing to read pdfs on laptops. People like handling books. But they like listening to music, and mp3s on a memory stick work just fine.

Very good friends of mine have their own esoteric publishing company, and they won't deal with big publishers unless they have to (although they are using one occasionally, for the contacts and distribution). I'd definitely try Indie first, you won't make any money the other route anyway (pence on each book). I'll be really damn excited if PoD works (sure, Wil Wheaton has the audience to get good figures but his PoD sales tell a sweet story too).

Date: 2009-11-20 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wingedkami.livejournal.com
It's interesting to see a different viewpoint to mine - if I ever get my novel finished then I'm running straight to the big publishers because I want the weight of their marketing machine behind my book. There are things you can do without them, as you say, but those aren't things that I want to do. I have nothing against the PoD business model - it's just not the one for me.

Date: 2009-11-19 10:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fearmeforiampink
I'd say that 'access to a computer at your local library' ≠ ability to keep up with the news on a daily basis. Especially not for the large proportion of non-computer literate people.

Date: 2009-11-19 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thessalian.livejournal.com
I don't think it's really a question of computer literacy - kids learn to use them in schools now, parents have to learn to keep up and they're a lot more commonplace in the workplace now, so I think that even those who may not understand how it all works can at least figure out how to find the BBC website. It might be a matter of preference rather than savvy, which I get, but I think that preference is getting less and less as things like the Kindle start coming into general use and the next generation - the one that grew up with all this stuff - start becoming even more of a market force.

Murdoch's media empire

Date: 2009-11-19 11:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] navytron89.livejournal.com
I'd be glad if Murdoch's empire went into the toilet like the dirt bag of a human he is. His theocratic scummery has poisoned all the media. But yes, they are doing shotgunning about downloads and pirating.

The problem is actual coming from the Middle East and Russian blackmarketers. Ironically their governments do nothing to pursue it and are on the take. When I was in Dubai there were hundreds of stores with pirated media from DVDs to the latest soundtracks and they don't get punished.

You can go to the Middle East spend a couple of hundred Durkis and come back with about 100 to 200 copies of pirated CDs and sell them stateside without any question. The African American Sailors have been doing this shit for years and selling them to local resale shops for almost full price.

Nowadays its easy enough to go to a free site like audiognome or others and download what you want for free rather than get ripped off for crappy prices because of overpaid businessmen who steal from their artists. Geffen is a jackass who stolen more from his contract deals than anyone will ever really know.

On the other end of writing, Podcasting has become popular to get novels out and also let a person see if there is a market for the books. Several authors have written stuff, put out a few chapters in Podcast format and let them run free. After a sampling back that links back to the authors webpage. They wait to see if they get around 10k hits to see if its worth publishing and take it to a printer for printing. The fans who are interested get a notice the the whole novel is coming out and they can either reserve a copy or wait till it shows up at B&N or other book dealer.

Internet also has a problem as Kindle and other eBook readers have faults including that the digital copyright ends for owning the book and deletes after a time. In fact one of by librarian buddies said that Kindle released an unauthorized copy of a novel. Then they reached out and whenever the Kindle connected a wi-fi source for updates the novel was deleted from the Kindle and the money was credited back to the purchaser.

So that means that my eBook reader could have its information deleted without my approval. What if I've got a schoolbook downloaded and has all my notes attached. Some idiot sends out a command and can delete my book (accidently or not) and now all my notes are gone to oblivion with out some kind of course to check. It still one of the reasons I will always love real print books. The whole print on demand thing though is an interesting idea and if they could do that in a small Mom & Pop interweb cafe that prints books and pick up an hour or two later would be an awesome thing.

Re: Book Machine

Date: 2009-11-20 02:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] navytron89.livejournal.com
Because I didn't know that this machine existed. The one I saw was a bit older that printed books from a limited supply. Actually this would cut down on the need for mega-bookstores to exist. Think about it request a title and read it online and print it on demand. Yeah, I could see that being a real killer to the megastores, especially when you can get them printed as needed rather than waste so much paper and leave them sitting until they either get shipped back to a warehouse hub.

Now it would be send the paper to site, have large cafe area that has wi-fi to allow a person to peruse titles, and wait to print books as needed. This would save hundreds of trees and less waste of space. Print on Demand Books as permanent items rather then wasted on shelf space to be resold at half.com or other sites, this would definitely be a green investment.

However the publishing houses would be wanting their cut of course so it would take a large amount of fighting to get these machines mainstream. The intellectual property rights of dead authors comes into play and how long does copyright go with this kind of set up. B&N already has bought the rights to hundreds of classics in literature and also edited them as well. So there lies the question do the current copyright holders have the right to edit the novels to fit within their ownership. Since they are taking away from how it was originally written and intended.

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