Another Commentary on Religion and Faith
Mar. 31st, 2010 05:10 pmSoooooo ... Christianity.
No, I am not going to bash Christianity. Particularly not this close to Easter. Well, I'm not going to deliberately bash Christianity, anyway. However, I will state for the record that I just don't get some of it.
(I'm not alone, incidentally. My mother was raised Catholic and gave it up relatively early in her life. She always told me that it had to do with the fact that she couldn't really believe in a loving, forgiving God who would send all non-believers, even the ones who hadn't so much as seen a missionary yet, to hell. After she decided that, she set to work finding explanations for all the Christian miracles - like, the loaves and the fishes lasted enough to feed all those people because all the people who were lying about not having any food felt guilty and shamed that this one person would give up their food to try to feed the multitudes and so either didn't take any or put in some of their own food, or both. That and her take on the water into wine - heavy red wine stuck in the porous walls of the clay jugs of the time; add water, get rosee - are the only ones I really remember. I think I was the one who likened Lazarus to the Fall of the House of Usher. This really tells me everything you need to know about my family. Difference between her and me is that she still counts herself a Christian, albeit a vague, non-practicing, non-denominational Christian, and I consider myself a pagan ... albeit a vague, barely-practicing solitary.)
So the thing I don't get is the whole thing about Will. God's will and free will, specifically. I mean, I get that God's supposed to have a plan, but is it really His plan? Can it be His plan if he gave us free will in the first place? I've often had arguments with atheists about whether or not omnicognisance negates free will, and I tend to think that those who believe that free will isn't possible if someone knows what another will decide are looking at it entirely wrong. Just because I know that a thing is going to happen a certain way does not necessarily mean that I make it happen the way I know it will. It just means that things are laid out a certain way and I know what's going to happen and I could stop it because I know it's going to happen but don't stop it because I am letting the people involved have free will. Maybe that's all God's plan is; giving people free will and seeing what happens.
However, the whole God's Plan deal seems to be a cornerstone for some - the idea, perhaps, that everything is going to be All Right, somehow, without them having to ... I don't know, do anything? That's another bit I don't get; the whole absolution shtick. See, it's like this: you have this God who says, "I sent my only son to die in pain to absolve you for your sins and thus you are forgiven all provided that you forsake all other gods and worship Me". Now, I grant you that technically it doesn't interfere with free will, because there is a choice ... if you consider 'repent or be damned' a choice. And repentance seems to involve not only worshipping the right god, but also following the mandates and tenets set out by the followers of that god - mandates and tenets that not only contradict what someone over there, supposedly worshipping the exact same god, is asking you to do, not only contradicts the things that the person delivering the mandate said maybe two weeks ago, but also seriously violates that whole 'free will' thing in places (particularly in places involving when and with whom one can or cannot have sex). But then, the Old and New Testaments don't mix well, and maybe that's the problem - I always figured a new covenant meant that the old 'Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God' thing could go by the wayside, and there seem to be a fair few of the more restrictive Christian believers who try to fit the values of both books into one faith. (I can't even pin the tendency to a denomination; supposedly Catholics are best known for clinging to Old Testament values that the New Testament should have made moot, but I'm speaking as someone who's friends with a Catholic priest with whom I can have reasonable debates about abortion without him screaming hellfire and brimstone at me, and as someone who saw an exorcism performed at an Anglican/Church of England/Episcopalian sleepaway 'bible camp' that smacked more of Koresh than anything sane, so I'm not going to make sweeping generalisations.)
Which I suppose brings me to the last thing: why do lunatic fanatics like Jones or Koresh or ... y'know, pick a serial killer who cited Christian motivations, I know there's a few ... immediately assume that the voice in their head telling them to kill and kill and kill again is God? I figure that if you've read the New Testament at all, you'd at least remember the 'do unto others' thing, and the one about 'he who is without sin shall cast the first stone', and even as far back as the Old Testament we had 'thou shalt not kill'. Also, why is the Christian God, who gave people free will in the first place, ordering people to do anything in such blatant terms, let alone anything that contradicts the Commandments? Surely that kind of blatancy is down to the Adversary? Doesn't God 'move in mysterious ways his wonders to perform', or something? Crap like that is just one more thing that gives Christianity - or Christians, anyway - the kind of bad press that is more often than not undeserved.
I think I understand the basic thing about Christianity ... which, when boiled down to its essential roots, isn't really any different than any other religion. Central tenet seems to be "Don't be an arsehole". So I try really hard to see the people who insist on violating that central, boiled-down tenet because they claim it's God's will as ... well, not Christian. Because the lack of forgiveness, the surrendering of the gift of free will that God gave them and the demands that others surrender that same gift, the judgemental attitudes, the holier-than-thou thing ... that's not Christian as I think it's supposed to be. Hell, that's not even faith. Faith is communion with a higher power and a striving for enlightenment, and I always thought that enlightenment involved getting past petty shit. There was the bit about 'before attending to the mote in my eye, attend the beam in thine own', right?
I suppose, to sum this all up: I know Christians, and I like them and they seem like good people. I wish that violent, judgemental arseholes would stop claiming the religion in the name of hate.
No, I am not going to bash Christianity. Particularly not this close to Easter. Well, I'm not going to deliberately bash Christianity, anyway. However, I will state for the record that I just don't get some of it.
(I'm not alone, incidentally. My mother was raised Catholic and gave it up relatively early in her life. She always told me that it had to do with the fact that she couldn't really believe in a loving, forgiving God who would send all non-believers, even the ones who hadn't so much as seen a missionary yet, to hell. After she decided that, she set to work finding explanations for all the Christian miracles - like, the loaves and the fishes lasted enough to feed all those people because all the people who were lying about not having any food felt guilty and shamed that this one person would give up their food to try to feed the multitudes and so either didn't take any or put in some of their own food, or both. That and her take on the water into wine - heavy red wine stuck in the porous walls of the clay jugs of the time; add water, get rosee - are the only ones I really remember. I think I was the one who likened Lazarus to the Fall of the House of Usher. This really tells me everything you need to know about my family. Difference between her and me is that she still counts herself a Christian, albeit a vague, non-practicing, non-denominational Christian, and I consider myself a pagan ... albeit a vague, barely-practicing solitary.)
So the thing I don't get is the whole thing about Will. God's will and free will, specifically. I mean, I get that God's supposed to have a plan, but is it really His plan? Can it be His plan if he gave us free will in the first place? I've often had arguments with atheists about whether or not omnicognisance negates free will, and I tend to think that those who believe that free will isn't possible if someone knows what another will decide are looking at it entirely wrong. Just because I know that a thing is going to happen a certain way does not necessarily mean that I make it happen the way I know it will. It just means that things are laid out a certain way and I know what's going to happen and I could stop it because I know it's going to happen but don't stop it because I am letting the people involved have free will. Maybe that's all God's plan is; giving people free will and seeing what happens.
However, the whole God's Plan deal seems to be a cornerstone for some - the idea, perhaps, that everything is going to be All Right, somehow, without them having to ... I don't know, do anything? That's another bit I don't get; the whole absolution shtick. See, it's like this: you have this God who says, "I sent my only son to die in pain to absolve you for your sins and thus you are forgiven all provided that you forsake all other gods and worship Me". Now, I grant you that technically it doesn't interfere with free will, because there is a choice ... if you consider 'repent or be damned' a choice. And repentance seems to involve not only worshipping the right god, but also following the mandates and tenets set out by the followers of that god - mandates and tenets that not only contradict what someone over there, supposedly worshipping the exact same god, is asking you to do, not only contradicts the things that the person delivering the mandate said maybe two weeks ago, but also seriously violates that whole 'free will' thing in places (particularly in places involving when and with whom one can or cannot have sex). But then, the Old and New Testaments don't mix well, and maybe that's the problem - I always figured a new covenant meant that the old 'Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God' thing could go by the wayside, and there seem to be a fair few of the more restrictive Christian believers who try to fit the values of both books into one faith. (I can't even pin the tendency to a denomination; supposedly Catholics are best known for clinging to Old Testament values that the New Testament should have made moot, but I'm speaking as someone who's friends with a Catholic priest with whom I can have reasonable debates about abortion without him screaming hellfire and brimstone at me, and as someone who saw an exorcism performed at an Anglican/Church of England/Episcopalian sleepaway 'bible camp' that smacked more of Koresh than anything sane, so I'm not going to make sweeping generalisations.)
Which I suppose brings me to the last thing: why do lunatic fanatics like Jones or Koresh or ... y'know, pick a serial killer who cited Christian motivations, I know there's a few ... immediately assume that the voice in their head telling them to kill and kill and kill again is God? I figure that if you've read the New Testament at all, you'd at least remember the 'do unto others' thing, and the one about 'he who is without sin shall cast the first stone', and even as far back as the Old Testament we had 'thou shalt not kill'. Also, why is the Christian God, who gave people free will in the first place, ordering people to do anything in such blatant terms, let alone anything that contradicts the Commandments? Surely that kind of blatancy is down to the Adversary? Doesn't God 'move in mysterious ways his wonders to perform', or something? Crap like that is just one more thing that gives Christianity - or Christians, anyway - the kind of bad press that is more often than not undeserved.
I think I understand the basic thing about Christianity ... which, when boiled down to its essential roots, isn't really any different than any other religion. Central tenet seems to be "Don't be an arsehole". So I try really hard to see the people who insist on violating that central, boiled-down tenet because they claim it's God's will as ... well, not Christian. Because the lack of forgiveness, the surrendering of the gift of free will that God gave them and the demands that others surrender that same gift, the judgemental attitudes, the holier-than-thou thing ... that's not Christian as I think it's supposed to be. Hell, that's not even faith. Faith is communion with a higher power and a striving for enlightenment, and I always thought that enlightenment involved getting past petty shit. There was the bit about 'before attending to the mote in my eye, attend the beam in thine own', right?
I suppose, to sum this all up: I know Christians, and I like them and they seem like good people. I wish that violent, judgemental arseholes would stop claiming the religion in the name of hate.