No, hon; the cabal members' heads are suitably fried. But on the other hand, at least sometimes the head-fucky seems to have a positive end result. How often do mages get to stage a coup to completely replace the Council of Nine (though, given the Tremere, the Void Engineers and a seat for Hollows and Orphans to have a say, it'll probably be the Council of Twelve by the tim ethey're done)?