They're both pretty good actually. I hated the old Vamp game, and hated the teasers for Requiem even more, so I was uncomfortably impressed when they turned out a game that looked playable. As for WoD2, I was going to be running a brief survival horror game with it if the usual suspects were interested and we could get a slot for the thing.

Mage 2: fuck only knows, they're saying nowt, and the fanboys are pointing in all the wrong directions as far as I'm concerned...